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Come on, give it up for this red jacket.

Color.

In living color.

I love you, Bishop.

I love you back.

Excited to hear you talk for the next seven
hours.

They’re not.

It’s good to see you.

It is good to be seen and not viewed.

I get it.

How many old preacher jokes do you have like
that?

Give me another one.

Oh God, don’t do that.

Don’t do that.

You have to listen to me, they come organically.

The first time you hung out with me you scared
me so bad.

He was nice enough to spend the day with me
talking about preaching.

In the middle of telling me about preaching
he starts preaching about blind Bartimaeus.

He starts acting out every character in the
story of blind Bartimaeus.

Blind Bartimaeus howlers in the story.

It’s just me and him in the room and he howlers
full throat Bishop voice across the desk at

me and I spilled my Diet Coke.

But I’ve told people about that.

I told them you can preach on anything.

Well, it’s not really that.

What we were talking about is it’s spinning
the text because on one hand I’m a preacher

and on the other hand I’m a film producer.

One of the things you have to decide whenever
you do a film, you have a story, somebody

brings you a story and you decide to write
a script for it.

You have to decide which character is going
to be the narrative, who’s gonna be talking.

If you take that principle and you apply it
to the Bible, is it gonna be told to you as

a blind Bartimaeus or is it gonna be told
through the eyes of Jesus or is it gonna be

told through the eyes of the disciples?

Because every POV, point of view, leads you
into a different realm of truth.

You see, it depends on whose perspective.

It’s like a husband and a wife, live in the
same house, have same address, eat the same

food but they’re having two different experiences.

The point of view determines the relativity
of the truth, the power of the truth, the

significance of the truth is all brought about
by who’s talking.

You take the prodigal son.

It’s one thing to talk about it from the son’s
perspective, it’s another thing to talk about

it from the older brother’s perspective.

It’s yet a third thing to talk about it from
the father’s perspective.

Each perspective opens up a new ventricle
of truth and feeling and perspective.

When you look at it in its totality, then
you see the substratumable truth itself.

All right, we’ve been going five minutes.

You’ve already ventricle and substratum so
slow it down.

There’s a reason I played My Shot from Hamilton
when you came out and you know why.

You tell them.

Can I tell them?

Yeah.

Bishop Jakes and I got to watch Hamilton together
a while back.

What I thought would be fun, just a game and
then we’re gonna talk about the book, it’s

gonna be very spiritual.

He warned me to brace myself for something
he was going to surprise me with.

Pray for me everybody.